Brazil and Germany: Football giants in the doldrums – DW – 11/23/2023 (2024)

When it comes to football, Germany and Brazil have a lot in common. The German Football Associationboasts more than 7.3 million members, and more people play organized football in Germany than in any other country in the world.

Meanwhile, Brazil's potential for producing football stars is considered almost limitless, andno other country exports more talent to foreign leagues. In 2021, more than 10,000 Brazilian footballers earned their money abroad.

For decades, both nations were perennial favorites when it came to major international tournaments. Even though it's been 21 years since Brazil won their last World Cup (2002 in Japan and South Korea), they have won the title a record five times. Germany's four titles, the most recent onein 2014,are second best —a distinction they share with Italy. However, in recent years things have been going anything but swimmingly for the two traditionalfootballing powerhouses.

2023: Ayear to forget

Both countries concluded this year's international schedule with defeats in prestigious matches. Earlier this week, Brazil lost 1-0 to their archrival, world champions Argentina, in Rio de Janeiro. This was the Selecao's first-ever home defeat in a World Cup qualifier. The match was overshadowed by riots in the stands of the Maracana Stadium.

This followed Germany stumblingto a 2-0 loss after a shoddyperformance against neighboring Austria in Vienna. Four days earlier, Germany coach Julian Nagelsmann's team hadlost 3-2 to Turkey in Berlin.

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Germany ended 2023 with two consecutive defeats, butBrazil had three. The loss in the Superclasicofollowed defeats by Uruguay (2-0) and Colombia (2-1) in World Cup qualifying matches. Only once have the Brazilians suffered a longer losing streak, when they lost four in a row in 2001.

The overall 2023 records were similarly dismal for the twoteams, with both losing more than half of their games: Brazil lost five of their nine matches, Germany six of their 11.

2014 a turning point

Perhaps ironically, Germany's troubles seemed to start just after one of their biggest triumphs, with thingsbeginning to go southalmost immediately after they won the 2014 World Cup in Brazil. Germany failed to make it past the semifinals at the 2016 European Championship in France. At the COVID-19-delayed 2021 European Championship, Germany's tournament was over after the round-of-16.

As if that wasn't bad enough, the 2018 World Cup in Russia and the 2022 World Cup in Qatarwere disastrous, with Germany failing to advance to the knockout phase at either event.

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Looking at the Selecao's World Cup results sincethat 2014 tournament on home soil, it also represents a turning point for them. The Brazilians finished in a disappointing fourth place —and that embarrassing 7-1 loss to Germany in the semifinals almost seems to have had a lasting effect.

Brazil were considered to be among the favorites prior to the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, but they wound up packing their bags and leaving both Russia and Qatar after falling in the quarterfinals.

Difficult search for the right coach

Another thing that Brazil and Germany have in common has beentheir difficulty in finding the right national team coach. There is a general consensus that the problem can't be a lack of talent among the players.

Both Germany and Brazil have many players plying their trades at top international clubs, where they regularly show off their potential on the pitch. Somehow though, this prowess goes untapped when they play for their national teams, which are marked by shaky defending and precious little threat in front of the opposing goal.

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Former Brazil coach Tite, who guided the Selecao to a Copa America title in 2019, stepped down at the start of this year. Since Brazil's football federation, the CBF, couldn't quickly find a permanent replacement, they appointed under-20 national team coach Ramon Menezes on an interim basis. He lost two of the three matchesin which he was in charge. InJuly, Fernando Diniz, a successful club coach, took over the national team on an interim basis.

This is not so dissimilar to Germany coach Julian Nagelsmann, who was appointed afterthe hapless Hansi Flick was dropped in September.

Both Diniz and Nagelsmann are on short-term contracts.Diniz has signed on for just one year; according to CBF President Ednaldo Rodrigues, Carlo Ancelotti will take over as Brazil's national team coach in mid-2024. However, the Italian has notconfirmed this —and he remains under contract with Real Madrid.

Nagelsmann's contractas Germany'scoach only runs until the end of the 2024 European Championship. Should Germany disappoint on home soil, the 36-year-old could well find himself out of work next summer —just like Fernando Diniz.

This article was originally written in German.

Brazil and Germany: Football giants in the doldrums  – DW – 11/23/2023 (2024)
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